New super-cameras mean no hiding for drivers who smoke, eat or use a phone
29th December 2007 Daily Mail
Digital speed cameras which capture drivers smoking or eating at the wheel are being introduced nationwide in a new move to hammer motorists.
Drivers will also face fines, bans and even jail for infringements such as driving without a seatbelt, using a hand-held mobile phone or overtaking across double white lines.
The hi-tech DVD cameras, which have instant playback, will also be used to provide photographic evidence against those eating sandwiches or rolling-up cigarettes at the wheel.
The DVD camera snapped a driver apparently steering by his feet
These are now considered serious offences under new guidelines drawn up for prosecutors.
The development will massively increase the number of fines and prosecutions against normally law-abiding drivers for relatively minor offences.
As well as being fined £60 and given three points on their licences, motorists now face two years in jail if their actions are considered to have been a factor in dangerous driving.
Virtually every police force in England, Wales and Scotland is now equipped with the new digital cameras. They were given Home Office approval in April but are quietly being rolled out nationwide.
More than 100 have been sold. The manufacturers have said their order book is full until next April.
The DVD cameras can operate as conventional speed traps. But thanks to the instant playback, they also double up to photograph motorists flouting laws other than speeding.
Set up by a police officer on sites such as motorway bridges, they constantly scan the cars and can digitally record drivers behind the wheel committing a vast array of minor traffic offences.
Crucially the new technology, called Concept, allows officers to play back the footage to locate, view and capture the offence instantly.
Photographs taken using the device show how effective it is, capturing pictures such as a man apparently steering his Renault with his bare feet and the driver of an Alfa Romeo with a mobile phone clamped to his ear.
The device is made and sold by Tele-Traffic UK whose chief executive, Jon Bond, is a former police chief superintendent in charge of speed cameras in Warwickshire.
He said: "It is the first camera to record offences other than speeding and give an instant playback.
"If the camera is being used for speed enforcement, but the police officer spots another driving offence being committed - or even thinks he saw something - he can play it back in a second. The offences are easily and quickly detectable."
Mr Bond, whose Warwick-based company employs 20, added: "At present, officers can record an offence such as driving with a mobile phone clamped to their ear or without a seatbelt but would then have to look through perhaps two hours of tape in order to find it again.
"Concept means that those operating the camera can digitally log everything. They are linked to the team in the back office who can instantly find the offence, see the proof and send out a penalty charge notice to the car's registeredowner.
"This will cut down massively on the amount of time police officers have to spend on paperwork and so speed up prosecutions. The days of the police having to chase after people who are infringing the law in these ways are gone. That will make the roads a safer place."
The Concept digital DVD technology costs £17,750. But police forces who already use Tele-Traffic's existing analogue (non-digital) system, can upgrade for a fraction of that price.
Smoking at the wheel was recently included in the Highway Code as something which courts can consider as a factor when police accuse drivers of failing to have proper control of their vehicle.
More than 300,000 drivers a day are still illegally using hand-held phones at the wheel, recent government figures revealed.
The penalties for using a handheld phone while driving, which was outlawed in 2003, were increased in February this year from a £30 fine to £60, plus three penalty points.
Under new sentencing rules, motorists using hand-held mobile phones could be jailed for two years and be disqualified if this was an aggravating factor in dangerous driving.
Those who kill while using a mobile face 14 years behind bars, under a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.
Last October, Mr Bond and his Tele-Traffic team were under fire after admitting to undercover reporters posing as customers that speed cameras were a "scam" and that setting up cameras in new areas was the equivalent of having "a blank chequebook" that would result in "bucketfuls" of cash.
Self-styled Captain Gatso of the campaign group Motorists Against Detection said: "This is yet another example of the Big Brother surveillance society where there's no escape from the cameras."




I don't think that the money
I don't think that the money is the major factor here (for the police at least).
It is probably due more to all the bureaucracy, targets and figures that they police have to work to. If a police officer has a low number of busts or fines handed out, they can get their numbers up by going after the easy targets (motorists).
I'm not blaming the police officers for this, I am blaming the government (and the public) for demanding that the police produce reports so that we can see how well they are doing (or not). The more performance reports they have to produce, the more they are compelled to increase their figures. Also, it is hard to increase your figures when so much paperwork is involved in the more serious crimes. I don't know the specific timings, I'm guessing that they can process a lot more minor motoring offenses in a shift than they can assaults or break ins etc.
That's just my opinion. :D
It Looks Like The Renault
It Looks Like The Renault Laguna Driver Isnt Actually Steering With His Feet Due To His Foot Is Too Far Away From The Steering Wheel!
This I find interesting
This I find interesting "The device is made and sold by Tele-Traffic UK whose chief executive, Jon Bond, is a former police chief superintendent in charge of speed cameras in Warwickshire."
More evidence that the Business world is in bed with the corrupt politicians and former chief superintendents
New motorist persecutuions
It is interesting to compare the outrage and stiff sentences for motoring offences with that for other, deliberate crimes.
A motorist who through a genuine accident causes unintentional harm is likely to be treated far more harshly than a thug who deliberately sets out to rob someone.
Is this a new method of frightening people out of their cars?
Have you been caught by
Have you been caught by one of these cameras?
If you have been seen by one of these cameras, or you do get seen and you receive a fixed penalty fine then please let us know. TPUC can help you get this fine and /or conviction against you reversed, by the simple use of English Law.
Please contact me personally as we are in the prossess of setting up a team to advise and help anyone in the country with any fixed penalty fine.
I have personally won a case against me and still to this day have never paid the fixed penalty fine issued to me for talking on a mobile phone whilst driving.
Please contact me on johnharris@tpuc.org or any of our numbers for information.
The truth is simple, mankind makes it complicated
who's makes these laws
I found this quite an interesting read to be honest, firstly how many times will the motorist be persicuted by threats of fines, penalty points and even prison.
firstly before people jump down my neck and start shouting at me.
Yes an idiot can be so easily put off by using a mobile whilst driving, but thats an idiot. i myself has a hands free kit fitted to my suped-up robin reliant, which i use on a regular occurance, thats because people ring me. but they say a standard call that is using a handsfree kit can be just as off putting as actually holding the phone, my own personal view is that is a crock of 'siht', ( i know i have spelt it wrong) using a handsfree kit is no difference to talking to one of your passengers in the car, you are still watching the road and you are talking to a voice that is inside your vehicle. Whats going to be the next thing ''''IF YOUR COUGHT TALKING TO A PASSENGER THEN RISK ANOTHER FINE OR PRISON ETC ETC ETC''''' where will this end.
and my final gripe over this situation is a simple one which has 2 answers really. the gripe is that all our single crewed police offers in the beat car, use their walkie talkies, which in essence is only the same as using a mobile phone. But does anything happen to them.....NO as they are officers of the law. i know this is going to set an argument going here and i dont mean it, but where does it all end.
Heres the 2 answers, 1 do we stop the police using there radio's and force them to have a radio officer with them 24/7 when in a car, which is so stupid as we all know the police do a very good job and without the radio they would be knackered. answer 2, we make the law totally equal for everyone, even a policeofficer cannot use their radio's to get infomation on a job they are going to, which then will make response times slower, and the criminals a better chance of getting away.
Its the usual catch 22, so which answer would be better suited to cure this insane money making racket. All views would be greatly appreciated.
oh and by the way HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL, and dont talk and drive at the same time, and drink very sensibly.......NAHHHHHHHHH.
A very valid point
I have to say you have stated some very interesting arguments enoch.
It is now being said that we cannot speak on mobiles whilst driving (personally i never have) thats my choice.
We cannot fiddle with sat nav's whilst driving
We cannot Eat whilst driving
We cannot smoke whilst driving
Well Enoch you made some very valid points . I would like to add Taxi drivers to your list.
They have to take instructions by Radio which last time i got into a taxi was NOT HANDS FREE
They have to key a mike which entails using one of their hands.
So what about the potential risk of them crashing and if caught will they be fined or are they exempt?
They are not officers of the Law and at the end of the day NO ONE is above the law.
Like you said where does it all end!!!
In my opinion the officers of the law should be concentrating on Drink Drivers as there are plenty of them on the roads and they are the people who cause deaths and should be rightly punished.
Is the next law for motorists going to be if your caught taking your hand off the steering wheel to change gear in a manual car then you will be fined. I Know it sounds far fetched but that is how ridiculous it is becoming.
They will fine us all for FARTING soon as we will be contributing to so called Global Warming and damaging the ozone layer
Oh No !!!!! i shouldn't have said that they will use my idea for another Tax
I am interested to hear others views
thanks for your views heven
thanks for your views there heven, its very much appreciated that there is someone out there that shares the same views and who aint HIDING with their views.
this lot is going to really be taken totally out of proportion, i think we ought to change the higher mans job title to '''LETS TAKE IT ALL OUT OF PROPORTION AND MAKE LOADSA MONEY''''
i must also add your comment to do with the police should be concentrating on the dink driver, HERE HERE i totally agree, drink drivers take more lives than any mobile call, i also agree you shouldnt be driving while holding your phone, buy i bloody bluetooth ear peice, yes you might look like a pilick, but at least you can still keep 2 hands on the stearing wheel, and be able to concentrate on the job in hand.
we could sit here all night thinking of what other jobs could be breaking this law, and what for, as this country wont give a dam about what we think, they only think of how to make the next millions of their people.
also one last thing Heven, dont give them any bloody more ideas on how to tax our last few pounds he he he
I know I shouldn't be giving
I know I shouldn't be giving them anymore ideas we need our Pennies , well for some pounds if they are lucky.
I must just add, although my comment might sound beyond ridiculous
DID YOU KNOW
that farmers in new zealand have been up in arms at the proposal of FLATULENCE TAX on sheep and cattle by kyoto protocol who are supported by the centre left government of New Zealand.
NO JOKE!!!!!!! another money making scheme to claw in millions all in the aid of Global warming.
Look it up if you don't believe me......
So you see my comment might not be so utterly bizarre after all.
I must just add if they did
I must just add if they did tax my latter comment that would be a sure way of making millions bankrupt ME BEING TOP OF THE LIST
ha ha ha
Cameras.
Whilst I abhor these latest spy cameras, I also don't believe in using a mobile whilst driving.
Well, the whole thing with
Well, the whole thing with these little fixed penalty fines and such like is that they rely on the fear of THE SYSTEM.
If everyone turned round and stuck together and said "sod off", the whole fixed penalty/ decriminalised offence system would collapse.
You have to hand it to the French....do you think they would put up with this?