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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby deadbeatdad on Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:09 pm

Just an update on this one folks I received correspondance from the Bolton Council under the Freedom of Information Act and they have admitted spending £16500 of public money on Common Purpose training, this was not in any of the Minutes that I received from the Council.
The Council have now issued an attachment of earnings order on my wages and when I asked them if they had sent my employer a copy of the Liability Order they said they had not, so I requested they do their job correctly and prove to my employer that a Liability Order has been granted and send a copy to them plus one to myself as I had not received one.
When both myself and my employer received the so called Liability Order it was on council headed paper but it did not state that an order had been granted, all it stated was the amount of cases heard that day plus another sheet which sated the full amount of council tax I owed. The only problem was the amount owed on the so called order was the full amount from the beginning of the year, bearing in mind i had paid some of it off so they had an extra £300 ontop of what I should owe. The date on the so called order was dated the 11th September 2008, the Court case was on the 12th so how come they knew it would be passed in court.
My employer threw it back at them as it did not make sense and it was not a Laibility Order from the Courts. Anyway I sent in my Statutory Declaration to the courts stating that i was refused the right to have my case heard under Common Law using a Judge and Jury of my own peers therefore the case should be reopened due to the incorrect procedures used in the first place, plus evidence has come to light that the Council are using public money to train council officials to lead Beyond Authority which is against the Councils guidelines.
The courts confirmed that no Liability order had been granted in the courts and the only order that was made was for the Council to pay me £30 costs for messing me about in the first case i.e getting court security to divert people who had been summoned to courtover to the Town Hall and refusing them the right to have their say in the courts. I do have this ion writing by the way folks so off I went to the Local Police to report the matter of malfeasance in Public Office on both the Courts side and the Councils side. I took all the evidence in to show that a fraudulent activity was taking place i.e the Council stating they issued my employer with an Attachment of Earnings Order as a Liability Order had been granted, I showed the police the letter from the courts confirming no order had been granted he just laughed and stated no Fraudulent activity has taken place as the council have informed me that they are taking money from your wages therefore it is not fraud, plus looking at the evidence you have supplied it will take us weeks to investigate it ( so we commented on the fact that they have not got the time to investigate a criminal offence because it is against the Council..
having looked through the fraud act the first section states it all.


1 Fraud
(1) A person is guilty of fraud if he is in breach of any of the sections listed in
subsection (2) (which provide for different ways of committing the offence).
(2) The sections are—
(a) section 2 (fraud by false representation),
(b) section 3 (fraud by failing to disclose information), and
(c) section 4 (fraud by abuse of position).
(3) A person who is guilty of fraud is liable—
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12
months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding
10 years or to a fine (or to both).
(4) Subsection (3)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12
months were a reference to 6 months.
2 Fraud by false representation
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b) intends, by making the representation—
B
2 Fraud Act 2006 (c. 35)
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A representation is false if—
(a) it is untrue or misleading, and
(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a
representation as to the state of mind of—
(a) the person making the representation, or
(b) any other person.
(4) A representation may be express or implied.
(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it
(or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device
designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without
human intervention).
3 Fraud by failing to disclose information
A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly fails to disclose to another person information which he is
under a legal duty to disclose, and
(b) intends, by failing to disclose the information—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
4 Fraud by abuse of position
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) occupies a position in which he is expected to safeguard, or not to act
against, the financial interests of another person,
(b) dishonestly abuses that position, and
(c) intends, by means of the abuse of that position—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A person may be regarded as having abused his position even though his
conduct consisted of an omission rather than an act.

So (2) The sections are—
(a) section 2 (fraud by false representation), this Lynda James has given false information to my employer, (c) section 4 (fraud by abuse of position). they are abusing the fact they can issue Attachment of Earnings Orders onmy Employer and lastley
2 Fraud by false representation
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b) intends, by making the representation—
B
2 Fraud Act 2006 (c. 35)
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A representation is false if—
(a) it is untrue or misleading, and
(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

So the Police PC from Bolton thinks this is not a Fraud case.
I have also since been informned by the Courts that they have refused to allow me to have case heard with a judge and a Jury as they state my previous complaints have been dealt with. The fact remains the Courts have still not explained why they allowed the Council; to influence Security of the Courts by informing them to direct residents to the Town Hall and refuse them the right to have their case heard in court.
The corruption is so blatant here however no fear im off back the Police tomorrow to speak to a Policeman who is a sergeant.
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby FLYING COLOURS on Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:13 pm

Good on you mate .............................................

I've taken the liberty of copying and pasting most of your post onto my own paper for reference.

As the council didn't send a copy of the liability order to your employer, from the magistrate - complain also about divulging private info to a third party under the Data Protection Act.

Also take the name of the first police man you spoke to - the one who laughed, and put in a complaint of neglect of duty - ALL reports of a crime MUST be recorded and investigated.

Thanks for the references help - it will be used.
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby BaldBeardyDude on Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:28 pm

I'll second that, m8 - very imformative posts there. I for one am watching intently. Sorry to interrupt it with this but, lol - credit where credit is due!! :roll:

Keep up the good work, don't let the barstewards grind you down.

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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby deadbeatdad on Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:09 pm

Well im a fighter along with my fiance who we have both set up an organisation to help fight fathers corners when they are under the grasps of the Child Support Agency and my god do they hate us ( see our link on this site under otherlinks dead beat dads) but what we are doing here is highlighting the corruption of this Government, how one of their corrupt agencies has the knock on effect which then ends up where another Government agency tries to take more and more money from you.
Our fight started with the CSA which meant I ended up having my home repossessed, then I bring in the corruption of the courts and the Mortgage company and I highlight the Money making scheme as in money is made on our birth certificates, so now im asking the question about how their funding system works and i am forcing them to give me that information before they take me to court to request the £30.000 shortfall, now I am pushing them to prosecute me for failing to pay the shortfall they are now running scared, then we have the Council tax corruption as stated here, and now to add to that I receive a speeding notice threatening me if I do not inform them of the drivers details then I can be prosecuted up to £1000, so lets see how we get on with this one oh and I cant use the excuse that I did not receive the notice... how on earth do they know I have received it this should be fun ( not to worry on that one though because I used to be a member of http://www.pepipoo.com and I have had 6 speeding notices thrown out of before it got to court ( use their own laws to fight back at them).
So I am all for fighting corruption and greed and I am one hundred percent behind John Harris, Brian Gerrish and others so lets start the lawful rebelion
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby FLYING COLOURS on Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:31 pm

I could have done with you around, when I was a single parent mate!! Interesting to note, that the CSA has now become something with the words "Enforcement Agency" incorporated in the title!! - Slowly but surely, all these different government departments are becoming "Enforcement Agency's" each with their jumped up "Enforcement Officer"...........
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby deadbeatdad on Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:45 am

Well using the Common law and the magna Carte should see a lot odf fathers having their money returned, watch this space my friend
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby FLYING COLOURS on Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:05 am

I most certainly will !! Don't forget about the "decision" clause!! I won on that one!! - courtesy of the old Granada TV programme!!!
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby bio-shocked on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:53 pm

now thats what i call entertainment...woo hoo guys go get the shitbags.. :D
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby deadbeatdad on Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:20 pm

Well went back to the Police Station in Bolton today and asked to speak to a Police Sergeant this time, the other one who laughed at me last time was hovering about in the back ground, but we just ignored him.
Anyway passed all the evidence across to the sergeant and he even went as far as contacting the courts who informed him that there was no Liability Order granted, but he came back with it is not a police matter but to take the matter to the Government Ombudsman. I provided a copy of the Fraud Act 2006 which highlighted what was posted before especially this bit which is what they have done

2 Fraud by false representation
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b) intends, by making the representation—
B
2 Fraud Act 2006 (c. 35)
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A representation is false if—
(a) it is untrue or misleading, and
(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a
representation as to the state of mind of—
(a) the person making the representation, or
(b) any other person.
(4) A representation may be express or implied.
(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it
(or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device
designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without
human intervention).

He informed me it is a civil matter, so fraud is no longer a criminal offence now according to this Sergeant, he kept saying well why don't you contact the courts and complain there, I informed him that had already been done but I am coming across closed doors because the dreaded C word has been mentioned in my complaints. He said C word I said yes its called Common Purpose an unlawful charitable organisation that have a network of Graduates throughout thousands of Companies across the country who are destroying this country. He went on to say the Council is not a company, so I forwarded a copy of the Dunn And Bradstreet illustrating Bolton Council trading as a company and then I showed him the Courts trading as a corporate run for profit business to which he could not get his head around.

Anyway he gave me some addresses to write to, the Government Ombudsman being one of them but I think I need to go further up the ranks of the Police to find out when Fraud is not fraud will keep.

Now Imust point out one important piece of information here I tried to contact the Court mangaer today a Kay Ogden who was yet again in a meeting, so I was put through to her secretary who stated she remembered writing out the response to my Stat Dec to which I responded that she totally ignored my Statutory Declaration which cost me to have it witnessed and signed. See seemed to hesitate and informed me that she could not enter into any correspondance with me as per instructions from the manager, I asked her why a Court manager who has perverted the course of justice suddenly refuse to enter into any correspondance with me, she said nothing had been breached in the court the first time I attended, so I had to remind her that kay Ogden had admitted what she allowed to happen in court that day with security was wrong, so I asked her why she was lying in order to cover up for a manager who has committed a criminal offence, next thing the phone went dead she hung up on me.... am I starting to hit a nerve here or what? :P
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Re: Bolton Council admit spending Council Tax money on Common Pu

Postby FLYING COLOURS on Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:34 pm

You should NEVER phone mate - always WRITE - and send it recorded delivery. Also put the recorded delivery number on their copy of the letter. At the end of the day - you have PROOF of what you've said (written) and a signed receipt from Royal Mail that they got it.

You can't prove a phone call...............

Did you take the police's numbers, names, and ask for a complaint form?? Serious neglect of duty? - Failing to record and investigate a serious crime??
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