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What we can expect soon..

Postby sabrim on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:51 am

Today we’re all prisoners in the USA
Papers, Please! June 2, 2009

As of today, June 1, 2009, even U.S. citizens are officially prisoners in the USA, or exiles barred from entering our own country without the government’s permission. We are now forbidden by Federal regulations from leaving or entering the USA, anywhere, by any means — by air, by sea, or by land, to or from any other country or international waters or airspace — unless the government chooses to issue us a passport, passport card, or “enhanced” drivers license (any of which “travel documents” are now issued only with secretly and remotely-readable uniquely-numbered radio tracking beacons in the form of RFID transponder chips), or unless the Department of Homeland Security chooses to to exercise its standardless “discretion” to decide — in secret, with no way for us to know who is making the decision or on what basis — to issue a (one-time case-by-case) “waiver” of the new travel document requirements.

If you’re in the USA without such documents — even if you were born here, or are a foreigner who entered the USA legally without such documents (a Canadian, for example, who entered the USA by land yesterday when no such documents were yet required), or your document(s) have expired or have been lost or stolen — you are forbidden to leave the country unless and until you procure such a document, or unless and until the DHS gives you an exit permit in the form of a discretionary one-time waiver to leave the country — but not necessarily to come home, unless they again exercise their discretion to “grant” you another waiver.

If you are a U.S. citizen abroad without such a document (for example, if you entered Canada legally without it yesterday by land, when it wasn’t required, or again if your document(s) are expired, lost, or stolen) you are forbidden to come home unless and until you can procure a new document acceptable to the DHS, or unless and until the DHS gives you permission to come home in the form of a discretionary one-time waiver.

The DHS admits, at the top of its GetYouHome.gov propapganda website, that it might take “several weeks” to obtain such a document if you don’t have one already or if it expires or is lost or stolen. A temporary paper drivers license without a photo, or even a standard photo licnese or state ID, won’t suffice — only an extra-fee EDL with an RFID chip, which also takes several weeks to obtain in those few states that issue them at all. Backlogs for even “rush” passport issuance can be even longer, as we pointed out in our comments to the DHS. It doesn’t matter if your next-of-kin is dying in Canada or Mexico. (Suppose a relative gets sick or injured, and needs you there to make medical decisons or escort them home, but you were’t going on the trip with them, and don’t have a passport.) You can’t go unless the U.S. government approves your papers or approves a standardless discretionary “waiver” for you to leave the U.S. — which won’t guarantee that they’ll let you come back.

This is the final stage, effective June 1, 2009, of implementation of the so-called “Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative” (WHTI).

You don’t need us to tell you what’s wrong with this picture. But if you want it spelled out, you can read the comments here and here that we submitted to the DHS when they proposed the WHTI regulations imposing these ID and exit and entry permit requirments, first for airports and seaports and then for land border crossings.

We shouldn’t have needed to point out to the DHS that the WHTI travel document requirements are in flagrant violation of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), one of the most important human rights treaties which the U.S. has signed and ratified. Article 12 of the ICCPR guarantees that, “Everyone shall be free to leave any country, including his own,” and “No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country.”

This article of the ICCPR has been interpreted by the U.N. Human Rights Committee (and by the U.S. when it has criticized other countries such as Cuba for their exit restrictions on their citizens) as making those rights near-absolute. The WHTI document rules are also in violation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the NAFTA Implemdentation Act, by imposing a barrier to Canadians and Mexicans wishing to come to the U.S. to compete for business — the requirement for a passport or enhanced drivers license (EDL) — that doesn’t apply to U.S. citizens doing business within the U.S.

And that’s not to mention the incompatibility with the U.S. Constitution of these restrictions on travel, movement, and assembly.

DHS APIS regulations already require airlines to obtain individualized prior permission from the DHS before they allow anyone (even a U.S. citizen) to enter, leave or transit the U.S. by air, and the the Secure Flight scheme will require the same for domestic flights as soon as the travel industry can build the elaborate and expensive infrastructure needed for such a real-time travel surveillance and control program. Meanwhile, the DHS is exapnding their assertion of similar and increasingly intrusive powers of search, seizure, interrogation, and above all surveillance (monitoring and logging) and control of travel and movement within the U.S. through warrantless, suspicionless checkpoints on roads that don’t cross any border and are up to 100 miles from coasts or borders, and at airports for passengers on domestic flights.

Previous court decisions upholding government discretion in whether or not to issue passoports has been premised on the assumption that passports were useful to facitlitate travel, but were not required for travel or for the exercise of any other rights. Those decisions will, obviously, need to be revisited in light of the fact that government-issued documents are now explicitly required as a condition of the exercise of those aspects of the right to travel — the right of anyone to leave the U.S., and the right of U.S. citizens to return to our own country — that are most explicitly guaranteed by international treaties to which the U.S. is a part, and which under the U.S. Constitution are “the supreme law of the land”. The DHS is cleverly saying that at first they will only issue warnings and waivers, in most cases, to U.S. citizens seeking to enter or leave the U.S. without the newly-required travel documents. Presumably, they hope that the new ID and permission-based travel control regime will become a well-established fait accompli before anyone is able to bring a court challenge of a DHS decision to bar someone from leaving the U.S., or barring a U.S. citizen from entering the country.
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Re: What we can expect soon..

Postby ianto_yr_twp on Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:53 am

THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENED ALL OVER THE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES, ENFORCED BY THE FEW OVER THE MANY....AREN'T WE THE PEOPLE REALLY STUPID NOT TO RECOGNISE OUR TRUE P[OWER?

WE DONT CARE TO AND THEREFOR WE GET WJHAT WE DESERVE. #

NOT MUCH POINT IN YOU PUTTING THAT ARTICLE HERE AS THE PEOPLE HERE DON'T GIVE JACKSHIT ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING.!
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Re: What we can expect soon..

Postby Meggido on Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:03 am

What people dont give jackshit about , is your opinion Mr Roberts
So probably best to keep them to yourself Eh!
Wisdom is easy to understand, everything else is just bollocks!
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Re: What we can expect soon..

Postby edthemed on Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:52 am

ianto
I suggest that you seek counseling or some other form of relief from your obviously poor state of mental health.

Or perhaps the time has come for you to get a life.
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Re: What we can expect soon..

Postby BIGBADMAN on Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:05 pm

the russians went thru the same thing just prior to the bolshie rovolution,same folks in charge now as then,you just gotta love what theyve planned for us
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Re: What we can expect soon..

Postby freeman2009 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:40 pm

BIGBADMAN wrote:the russians went thru the same thing just prior to the bolshie rovolution,same folks in charge now as then,you just gotta love what theyve planned for us


I am glad someone else can see it.

Our common law is based upon the solid triangle of We the people, The monarch and God. If one of the links is removed the whole thing falls apart and the people have no rights or protection except statute. However statute gives all our rights and the benefit of those rights to the state, not the individual people. Those who control the statute (the state) have all the power and will always misuse it and benefit more than the common man.
This is the main reason communism has never worked and will never work. All men in a socialist state are not equal in value or in the eyes of the law.

The current government has (since day one) been trying to abolish the monarchy and remove all common law rights from the people in order to create a socialist state. Rememebr the 'What are the monarchy for? why do we need them? why don't they pay Tax' debates when they first came in. Closely followed by efforts to abolish the house of lords, who are the final court of protection for the people and the only thing that stops the government railroading us.
Just a week ago, the government again raised the issue of Monarchy with its attack on prince Charles, spouting unconstitutional behaviour. The irony of this is beyond words.

Have no illusions about it, if the lords or monarchy go. We are all going to the Gullags.
This is Labours 'final solution' , an enslaved people with no legal or lawful rights or remedy. With them sitting at the top. This is eactly what happened in Russia and exactly what they have had planned for us since day one.

The british Labour party was created by members of the british communist party using Menchovich communist principles, these are virtually identical to the Bolshevic principles which were used to create the USSR. This is a known historical fact and many members of the current government such as Jack Straw have very close links with the communist party and have even been card carrying communist party members.


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Re: What we can expect soon..

Postby sabrim on Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:17 pm

I think you should discuss more about solutions rather than being negative about it... at least we are not ignoring anything like many other sleeping 'persons'..
we can not stop it anyway. But we can find a way to protect ourselfs
I wonder if a notarised affidavit would be enough for that issue..
what do you think guys?
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