Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

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Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby wat tyler on Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:49 am

Here are some amazing websites and some extraordinary information on just who owns MOST of the land in Britain. Did you know that in the year of 1872 was the ONLY ever comprehensive survey done of who actually owns the land of Britain ? It's results were so shocking and have therefore really been supressed ever since. Even at that date nearly 70% Britain was owned by far, far less than 1% of the British Population ! (The figure is actually closer to 0.003%). And huge tracts of land today run nominally by the Forestry Commission, the National Trust, the MOD etc. The Church of England, so-called. A lot of it falsely labelled as belonging to government. A subject you really MUST be aware of.

You will be amazed, but appalled, at how few people own so much of Britain . This will really open your eyes to the inequalities of ownership and how that translates into everyday life. You will also be surprised at how tens of millions of us live on just a tiny fraction of the land available in this country.

The UK is run for the benefit of a ruling incompetent buffoon, elitist, strata of people and the mass of we the British people suffer in many ways as a direct result of our own ignorance and laziness. Cahill's book 'Who Owns Britain' lays to rest once and for all the grotesque lie that the UK is 'short of land', revealing by plain facts that there is actually a land surplus despite 60 million people being crammed into only 7.5% of the British land mass. It reveals the propaganda machine that insists there is widespread “concreting over the countryside” and “urban sprawl”. Nothing could be further from the truth. This cramming of the population into less than 7.5% of the British land mass has created a wholly artificial land shortage ramping up land prices to the point that 2/3 of the value of the typical UK home is actually the value of the land on which it is built. As a direct result UK homes in comparison to those of other similar countries are very small and are vastly overpriced. The benefactors of this massive scam are the enterpriseless rent taking large landowners - this '1%' of the population owning 70% of the land, a situation not seen in any comparable nation of the entire western world ! A single landowner, the Duke of Westminster, with a weighted system to suit him, naturally is the UK’s richest man. See how the British people are being ripped off !

Kevin Cahill's extraordinary book shown below emphasises the benefits of land re-distribution and gives examples of how it has benefited many countries. He also exposes how a major British landowners fund has as its P.R. front 'ecological groups' spouting “keep Britain green”, to maintain their vast highly lucrative and virtually unknown acres. Jonathan Poritt of 'Friends of The Earth' comes in for severe criticism as he spouts that the UK is 'short of agricultural land'. In point of fact agricultural land only contributes 3% of the UK economy by taking up far too much highly subsidised land. It's a farce.

Cahill's book uncovers the deceit and skulduggery that large landowners and their privileged ancestors went to, to maintain their wealth to the detriment of the British nation as a whole. Of how they infiltrated politics in the form of the then House of Lords and changed laws over centuries to fully suit themselves.

See for yourself how Britain is still being ruled as if it is in the Middles ages. It's amazing but it's the true situation ! Enough is enough - Britain is crying out for radical change by we, the British people, to bring it in line with reality. Cahill reveals too that the ejected 66 hereditary peers from the House of Lords alone owned between them the equivalent of 4.5 average sized English counties !! As Cahill highlights, we can no longer sit on the fence and be more and more exterminated by this machinery of exploitation.

So we still don't need a government BY THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE ? Anyone who thinks differently will definitely change their mind when they see such plain and indisputable facts. Amazing !!

http://www.who-owns-britain.com/

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:3y ... clnk&gl=uk

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article786116.ece
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby grahoom on Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:27 am

look up

Allodial owner

and

Fee Simple

In English common law theory, the Crown has radical title or the allodium of all land in England, meaning that it is the ultimate "owner" of all land. However, the Crown can grant an abstract entity—called an estate in land—which is what is owned. The fee simple estate is also called "estate in fee simple" or "fee-simple title" and sometimes simply freehold in England and Wales. In the early Norman period, the holder of an estate in fee simple could not sell it, but instead could grant subordinate fee simple estates to third parties in the same parcel of land, a process known as "subinfeudation." The Statute of Quia Emptores adopted in 1290 abolished subinfeudation and instead allowed the sale of fee simple estates.[1]


will also shed some light on the matter.
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby wat tyler on Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:33 am

grahoom wrote:look up

Allodial owner

and

Fee Simple

In English common law theory, the Crown has radical title or the allodium of all land in England, meaning that it is the ultimate "owner" of all land. However, the Crown can grant an abstract entity—called an estate in land—which is what is owned. The fee simple estate is also called "estate in fee simple" or "fee-simple title" and sometimes simply freehold in England and Wales. In the early Norman period, the holder of an estate in fee simple could not sell it, but instead could grant subordinate fee simple estates to third parties in the same parcel of land, a process known as "subinfeudation." The Statute of Quia Emptores adopted in 1290 abolished subinfeudation and instead allowed the sale of fee simple estates.[1]


will also shed some light on the matter.


Yes, and now we see the price we have paid NOT to have a British Constitution made by WE, THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN. The Crown has NO legal right to the land of Britain. None at all. The land of Britain was and forever will be the stewardship of the British people. Not of unelected rich elites. Plain and simple.

BRITISH GOVERNMENT BY THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE !

Let's get out of the feudal system once and for all. You know it makes sense. And until it's done there is no point, none at all, of tinkering with this issue. Let's stop fooling ourselves and grow up.
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby Wolf on Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:15 pm

Guys..delighted your interested in Land !

I have done some research but its like everything else isn't it ? They have it we don't ? they have a private army. Bummer

So we still come back to how do we go up to the guerilla and grab our bone back ?

Ideas welcome
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby wat tyler on Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:25 pm

We do it democratically, peacefully, by drawing up a Constitution by WE, THE BRITISH PEOPLE, to which ALL British people are invited to contribute, its content approved by a vote available to all residents of this nation after an agreed period, and dealing amongst other things with the subject of land ownership. A subject we can and should discuss, inviting even landowners and non-land owners to contribute to before it is drafted.

We, the British people.....etc.

A Constitution by the people and for the people. One made in goodwill in drawing up a Constitution for our nation and drawing on the best examples of independence.
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby Wolf on Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:34 pm

Well yes that was the conclusion I had come to. Research suggested to me this should be done at the international treaty level. people are doing such things. But I cant resolve the issues in my mind .

I will do my best to explain how I understand it. I will be lazy and clumsey..sorry..

Each natural person is sovereign. Governments get their power from sovereigns. Sovereigns must remove that support ONE AT A TIME. How ?

Possibly by exercising "right of self determination" or self exile. And before I bother you with the mechanics...we have a problem already...which is we have to work within an existing framework of "right to self determination". One such right exists at the intrnational treaty level between states. A group os sovereigns (E'states) I believe may make a STATE. If in alliance and having pledged there honor to a mission statement..ie your new constitution.

International law I THINK trumps domestic law BUT IS STILL TRECHEROUS !!! At the international level we can grant ourselves diplomatic immunity at home in the uk. But how enforceable/practical is that ?

The alternative is equally as difficult...starting a new constitution in Peckham and enforcing it on a bit of land in Cumbria. Not easy again.

Its just that the required mass non coop hasnt happened and isnt looking likely is it ? A miracle hasnt happened YET either. Still our best bet ? lol

Can you build on any of the above ?
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby wat tyler on Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:38 pm

The power of the EU is removed only by WE, THE BRITISH PEOPLE, DRAWING UP A CONSTITUTION OF OUR NATION, WHICH EXPRESSLY WITHDRAWS FROM MEMBERSHIP OF THE EU. A document which the entire people will be allowed to contribute towards writing, and on which they can vote at the end of this process.

The solution is simple. GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. This expressed in we, the people, having (at last) a Constitution for our nation.
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby Wolf on Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:48 pm

But the way the current system works is that you get standing my force/numbers..ie millions sign the new constitution...unlikely !! And you would get shot in the process.

So how else could you enforce such a constitution unless you used the current framework ? (an uncomfortable idea of course)

Hard questions. Require answers though ?
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby wat tyler on Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:04 pm

If the people of Britain are shot in the making of their own Constitution does it not prove, by their own sacrifice, the rightness of what they do ?

It is more important to live and do what is right than to be dead whilst still living as a scoundrel and a hypocrite. The people of the nation are the sovereignty of the nation. So simple a truth, yes ? If you can think of a better way to serve mankind than actually serving them, please share with us.
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Re: Who Owns the Land of Britain ???

Postby Wolf on Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:53 pm

yes..its called live free or die

to be honest i have been a warrior all my life..i have so many arrows in my back i could not carry such a thing off..ie organising millions of people. if someone doesnt..and its not looking likely..and they would get snuffed on day one anyway...how exactly do you think anything can/will be organised that is effective ?
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